‘El Paiche’ speaks clearly about Antauro Humala.
When does the internal struggle begin?
In January of this year. We didn’t even have a month and I already wanted to assume the presidency of the party. I told him “why do you want it if you are the natural candidate?” Being president involves a series of administrative tasks, controls, traveling and participating. He wanted absolute control. He threatened us. He said that if they did not call a congress and name him president, he would go to another party. He was already thinking of leaving with Roberto Sánchez.
Why do it if you were already the candidate?
The family environment he has wants to turn a national project into a family project, like Acuña. Ulysses was already talking about being a candidate.
Isaac Humala has written on the subject.
The dad has signed up last now. I spoke with him last week. He told me he didn’t know anything about what his son was doing. He told me that he didn’t know why his son had those attitudes.
And with Ollanta Humala?
Clear. We have information that Antauro is secretly talking to Ollanta. Because the entire environment, businessmen and candidates, are all from Ollanta. Nancy Obregón, Walter Acha. I didn’t realize it at the time. Medelius… (“There is also the ‘dog-killer’ congressman from Huancavelica,” adds Augusto Peña Carvajal, an ANTAURO activist, in reference to Miró Ruiz Delgado…). Yes, yes, yes.
When you say you are going to shoot Ollanta, is it a feint?
He’s going to shoot his brother! Ollanta is in there. It is not explained any other way. We have seen Alexis several times at party activities. It is not something illegal, but he is talking with Ollanta secretly and that is not feasible. We have worked for a national project. I can’t just bring my family in like that.
Is Nadine Heredia here?
No, I don’t think so. They already make me doubt everything. It was practically a military project. Ollanta came and appropriated it, became president and dissolved it. And then his relatives came in, his sister, his mother-in-law, Nadine. But he was smarter. Because now there is the intention, but we haven’t beaten anyone yet.
His French bulldog recently died.
If you start to analyze it, it comes from the Franco Peruano school. His family is wealthy and lives in a wealthy neighborhood, Monterrico. If you start thinking about why you look for Roberto Sánchez, it is because he is caviar, he feels like caviar. I just realized it. That’s why he has never worked. When he was in the Army they sent him money. We earned US$100, I taxed. It is revealing its true character, which is caviar. It has all the attitudes of a caviar.
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