Christian Schambaher served as director of Counterintelligence of the dini until the government of Pedro Castillo, period in which it was finally removed. Schambaher knows the language of Intelligence closely and that is why today he analyzes the network of ‘The Spanish‘.
How do these equipment and Pegasus software work outside of the legal realm?
These types of fairs, such as the one in Panama, are very recurrent in the field of Intelligence. The event offers technological solutions, and Intelligence is one of them. These types of fairs are not open to the public, everything is done under formal accreditation from an entity or a government, especially if the intention is to buy this equipment that is outside the law. These types of tools are specifically sold to governments because they are platforms capable of infecting any mobile through spyware or malware. Pegasus is a platform produced by an Israeli company, but let’s remember that Pegasus had very serious problems in Spain, the US and Mexico. Pegasus itself is a very expensive platform. It was recently revealed that the FBI had negotiated a $5 million buyout, and buying Pegasus first required formal government recognition. This platform does not respond to the budgets that have been disclosed in the information, such as the 150,000 dollars.
What other options could you think of?
Drones are a possibility, and in WhatsApp communications. It must be taken into account that this Pegasus software can work in two ways: the best known is the interaction with the victim, that is, the objective that I have to violate. You are forced to click on a text message, on a link, something like fishing, but I think that was not the case. They were interested in buying a zero-click platform, those platforms are too expensive. The issue of renewal of licenses for the platforms has not yet been known because these licenses are for each cell phone, and for each cell phone it costs almost half a million dollars. That is why it strikes me how this purchase intention has been worked on.
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What do you think?
You have to understand that Pegasus is not offered openly. We would have to ask ourselves how these people presented themselves, were they by the government or a Digimin executive, and from that line we can know how it was handled. I think that when the company realized that these people were informal and were not accredited, that is when the company told them no more. This group of people where ‘El Español’ was, have perceived the degree of corruption of the Castillo government and that is why they have seen an opportunity to do some kind of business. I think this was aimed at getting these people to pocket the $150,000 through an eventual purchase.
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