Minister Alexandre de Moraes, of the Federal Supreme Court (STF), confirmed this Friday (3) that he had had a conversation with Senator Marcos do Val (Podemos-ES) in which the parliamentarian told him that he had participated in a meeting with his former -president Jair Bolsonaro where he was proposed to record the magistrate.
The minister also said that the parliamentarian refused to formalize in a statement the complaint that he had received a proposal to participate in a possible coup plan.
At a business conference at Grupo Lide, founded by former governor of São Paulo João Doria, in Lisbon, Moraes said that, given the senator’s refusal to formalize the complaint, he said goodbye to Do Val because “what is not official, for I don’t exist”.
He also said that the senator – with whom he claimed to have no intimacy – told him that the recording would be used to try to remove him from the presidency of investigations investigating Bolsonaro.
“I asked the senator if he would reaffirm that and put it on paper, that I would immediately take his statement. The senator told me that this was a matter of intelligence and that unfortunately he could not confirm it. So I got up, said goodbye to the senator, thanked him the presence, even because what is not official, for me does not exist”, said the minister, who participated in the event by videoconference.
“The brilliant idea they had was to put a wiretap on the senator so that the senator, who is not intimate with me – I’ve talked to this senator exactly three times in my life – could record me and, from that recording – and that’s how far he got to the senator – could request my withdrawal from the presidency of the investigations”, he reported.
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On Thursday (2), the magazine Look published a report claiming to have had access to messages that would prove a meeting in December of do Val with Bolsonaro and with the then federal deputy Daniel Silveira at the Palácio da Alvorada.
At the time, according to the report, Bolsonaro would have proposed to the senator that he record a conversation with Moraes without the minister’s knowledge, in an attempt to get the magistrate to say something compromising that could lead to an attempt to arrest him and annul the October presidential election. .
According to the magazine, do Val reported the episode to Moraes and, later, refused the proposal to record the minister.
Also on Thursday, do Val confirmed that he had met with Bolsonaro and Silveira, but said that the proposal to record Moraes came from the then federal deputyand that Bolsonaro only listened to her in silence.
The senator also said that he had met with Moraes before the meeting with Bolsonaro and Silveira to say that he had been called to talk to both of them and that the minister had encouraged him to go to the meeting to gather information.
Asked about this supposed first meeting with Val, Moraes denied that it took place. “The conversation I had with him was the one I transcribed earlier,” said Moraes.
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