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Roberto Chiabra: "Remove insecurity and Peru has two more points of GDP. We would not grow to 3% but 5% “

Roberto Chiabra: "Remove insecurity and Peru has two more points of GDP. We would not grow to 3% but 5% "

How to combat citizen insecurity?

For me it is an enemy of three heads: common crime, criminal gangs and international organized crime. You have to strengthen local power by districts. Education, health …

More decentralization? That of Alejandro Toledo It did not work.

The problem of decentralization is that there is no articulated work. District, provincial, regional, national. Bits of works that you do not see.

And the fourth head in Congress?

Political power, of course. When you see laws that benefit some. There is a thin line between informal and illegal. It cannot be possible that in Pataz, the gold capital in Peru, there are no roads, schools or hospitals.

There is your friend César Acuñataking.

He has ministers of his party. We see them daily, battling for their positions. Peru has no vision of the future. If the protagonists of the democratic transition had gathered in 2000 to decide which Peru wanted for the Bicentennial … a great opportunity was lost. There was no state or reconciliation reform. They only blamed the military.

Look: The first PPC-Chiabra alliance is born. Group 5 in see

Goes with him PPC and the party of prosecutor Tomás Gálvez.

We lack one more: the room. Eye: A President is Head of State, Head of Government and Supreme Chief of the Armed Forces. You have to see if a candidate meets the three conditions. Surveys say: one with experience. One thing is the ones who will learn and something else, those who already know. If that is old age, welcome is old age.

When they mention the deaths of 2022-2023, remember the soldiers drowned in Ilave.

Those six soldiers, who remembers them? And they are voluntary military service. Six boys who sought to protect people. They are the children of the people. We ignore our soldiers. We do not know how to value them. It is a defect in our country. We have to change it. Instead of motorcycles, mayors should give scholarships. There are people who do not want Peru in Peru.

“Peru looks in Chiquito”

The FAP hired a Chilean ex -military.

I have read an average weakest statement. Someone has failed. They have had to take measures as an institution.

And on top we bought new airplanes. In Ukraine and Israel the war is with drones.

Look at Ukraine with Russia. Now the war is in cyberspace. Banks, water, light neutralize you. Before you did air superiority with airplanes. Now it is with drones.

Do you worry about the Chinese presence in Peru?

If it hadn’t been for the Chinese, Chancay It would remain a little pampita. Chancay It has fallen from heaven. Thanks to whom? They are 12 to 15 days less. Chancay has taken us about 10 years of advantage, they say there. And on top of the agro -export of fruits the Peruvians already beat us.

In Chile they are worried.

They already worried. They blame him for Puerto of. Some students who entered to do practices in the government. In Chile you will win the left again. What happens in Peru is that there is no strategic plan. If you already knew it was coming ChancayWhere is the integration with the regions? Nothing has been done. When you see that Brazilians and Chinese agree to make a bioceanic train, what does Peru say?

Peru is looking.

Peru must say where it will happen and who benefits. The Brazilians are going to save 12 days. And the Chinese cannot fail. I would give the port of Corío to the Americans. I do not speak of Hub but of hegemony in the South Pacific. I say it since 2009. Paita, Chimbote, Chancay, Callao, Ilo, Corio and Tacna. Close trains. Tumbes to Tacna. Trains to unite Peru. An objective of Peruvians must be physically integrate. With that you eliminate poverty and reduce inequality. What are you doing in an isolated town? Peru looks in Chiquito.

Trains like López Aliaga?

That train must be seen from the positive point of view. It reduces you time. I hope it is achieved, for the sake of all those who need it. It is a topic of three: the Mayor’s Office, the MTC and the operator. They have to agree and not be fighting.

Other candidates. ¿Keiko Fujimori?

I think he is preparing. He is heating.

¿Pedro Castillo?

He lost the great opportunity that gave him his life. We needed a government that took us out of the years arrested by COVID-19. The left is just noticing.

Vicente Alanoca, Guillermo Bermejo …

Each one has its qualities and personality. You have to respect them.

The president Dina Boluarte?

You must be preparing for later. You will have serious problems with justice. You have to be meditating your situation so delicate.

And Alejandro Toledo?

Unfortunately, it is a shame, but you are paying the consequences of your actions.

Vizcarra? Will they villar? Humala? PPK?

They are delaying a lot to apply justice. Whether or not guilty. The same for others. If something cannot fail in Peru is justice. If justice worked well we would not be as we are. We would not free so many octopus.

Are you not afraid of that justice?

I am assuming a risk and putting my family at risk. I will not do any macana or let someone do something to harm it. We have scared away the decent people of politics. And that is hurting us as a country. The decent people tell me “I support you, Roberto, but my family tells me not to participate.” I tell them “risk with me.” I don’t get to this to be famous or millionaire.

What would you say to those who question your age?

Two things tell me: old and arrogant. To have leadership you need to be confident. And trust is the sum of knowing your profession, knowing others and having experience. Arrogant, no. And you have to change “old” for experience and experience. What does Peru need? You have to attack an objective in enemy territory. Do you name a pilot with 10,000 hours of flight or a newly graduated number one? Do you choose to operate with a surgeon with 500 operations or a newly graduated who is the maximum? There is your answer.

A message for national holidays?

Always optimistic. We have left worse. In economics we have not grown much, but we are better than other countries. Remove insecurity and Peru has two more points of GDP. We would not grow to 3% but to 5%.

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