In a house in Surco, the ethnocacerista leader antauro humala received this Wednesday morning, The Republic to answer a series of questions related to their position regarding the various demonstrations in regions against the Dina Boluarte regimerepression and the missed opportunity for Pedro Castillo.
— What is the Dina Boluarte regime for you? A dictatorship? A civil-military regime?
— It is a timocratic regime. Democracy of scammers. That is what it is. And it is defined by Plato in ‘The Republic’. There is democracy and there is also timocracy. That is what we have in Peru.
— In that sense, at this point, are you asking for the resignation of Dina Boluarte?
— I have asked for it since the first death that occurred as a result of these protests, in December 2022. The Ethnocacerista Party, in a statement signed by me, demands the resignation of Boluarte and that of José Williams. because if it enters williamsthe author of the Accomarca massacre and the State crime in Andahuaylas, as provisional president and in the Legislative assumes Martha Moyano, who is a 100% Fujimontesinist, the right would enter totally calateated and vengeful.
— For you, Boluarte is from the right or from the left?
— She is a nondescript president. She has no color, sensation, she has no orientation.
— Is it a chameleon?
— No, not a chameleon either. But that she is there to sustain herself because she knows that in her political solitude, once out of power, it will be in the total hands of the Prosecutor’s Office and obviously he will continue in the mirror of Pedro Castillo.
– Because?
-First you have to understand that she formed Pedro Castillo’s iron and the only person who could relieve him was this lady. That he should have resigned on the spot is another matter. But it was up to her (assume), there was no other person. There was a constitutional succession.
— You have been questioned for using that term: constitutional succession. He said that about the succession of Boluarte when in regions there were already protests against this regime. Don’t you regret it?
— No, because history gives me the reason for the revelations. From what is happening with Pedro Castillo, we already know that there were other interests in staying in power by the corrupt group. I said what is coherent at that moment to the small group of 80 to 100 people who were in the square. There was never a rally.
— Was it a press conference?
— There is no photo of a rally, there is a conference with 80 people outside, the majority from Castillo, who was with blood in his eye because Castillo had been dismissed. Obviously, I say: It is legal, but it is not legitimate. He appeared in El Peruano (his assumption of her), he has sworn because he corresponded to her.
— But your speech is understood as an endorsement of the Boluarte regime.
— Well, two or three youtubers misunderstood it, that we now know that they received money from Castillo because there were remittances for the alternative press. They took the bottle away. I cannot morally defend Castillo. I have always said that he is a chicken thief and I agree. History put him (in the presidency) for different reasons. It could have been a national project 50 years after Velasco Alvarado. It failed because it got corrupted. The only thing that is asked of a man in charge of that movement is not to engage in immorality, and he did. He now disqualifies himself.
— You have also said that, if you come to power, you will shoot all the former presidents involved in the Lava Jato case. Why doesn’t he include Castillo? He is under investigation for corruption.
— First, because it is not in Lava Jato. Lava Jato for me is a national security problem because they are foreign agents, alias investors who had at their mercy, under bribery, the presidential will of a republic in a third of a century. That is a national security problem, more than corruption. That is firing squad. Castle He was a cell phone thief, hen thief, he doesn’t know what Lava Jato is.
– Thief?
— Oh, of course. That’s why they put him in jail then. But the other (Lava Jato) is a problem of national security. I make the difference and seek to be consistent. Boluarte could be corrupt. Until now she has not been tested, she can be tested, she can be accused. I’m not saying it’s proven, but surely they’ll find out, but if it were corrupt, it’s not lavajatista. I’m talking about lavajatistas, from Fujimori to Vizcarra.
— And now, in the case of Boluarte, as you say, legally, it is not proven that he has committed acts of corruption.
– I do not know, that’s the truth.
— But is it a regime that has violated human rights?
— They have been violated by as many as 99.9% of the political, civil and military regimes in Peru. What’s more, dictatorships in Peru, if you look at history, are more peaceful than democracies. Democracies are bloodier in Peru than dictatorships. We are seeing the thousands of deaths suffered by Fernando Belaunde and Alan García. Moreover, in the Truth Commission, Alberto Fujimori in 10 years it has fewer deaths than Belaunde in five years and García in five too. So, now in the case of Dina Boluarte, obviously, there are human rights violations because what has happened in the south has been a tragedy: 66 dead, including the last six boys, the six soldiers.
— And they are regions that you have traveled.
— Indeed, I have traveled the south and I have proclaimed the slogans that the population later endorsed in the protests, with which it seems to me that they have opened their eyes, it seems good to me.
