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Interior Minister Heber: Astesiano “lied” with the alleged use of The Guardian

Interior Minister Heber: Astesiano "lied" with the alleged use of The Guardian

The Secretary of State emphatically stated that “it is a lie” that one can access to manipulate the security system; He expressed that “it is impossible” for the Police to make up the numbers. The Minister of the Interior, Luis Alberto Heber, appeared this Monday 21 before the Committee on Public Security and Citizen Coexistence of the Senate, to provide information and explanations on the latest crime figures in the country and also on the use of the security system called “The Guardian”.

After more than three hours of appearance, Minister Luis Alberto Heber appeared before the media for a few minutes. “This was a very important instance for us. Why? Why do we request to be received by the Senate Public Security Commission to report on two issues that seem relevant to us, and they guarantee the system of investigation and data collection of criminal acts that exist in the country”.

The hierarch emphasized that the operation of the “El Guardian” system was detailed, and said: “El Guardian does not intercept telephones. Who intercepts the phones are the telephone operators. What the Guardian does is have the information that results from that interception. When they say that the Guardian is interfering with us, that is not feasible. A telephone or wiretapping can only be intervened when it is carried out by the telephone operators”.

He added that “telephone operators do not intervene in calls and wiretaps unless it is with a court order. And for there to be a court order there must be a request from a prosecutor. And for there to be a request from a prosecutor, there must be a police investigation that warrants intercepting that phone. It is practically impossible to point out that someone outside the Police, the Prosecutor’s Office and the Judiciary could intervene from El Guardian ”.

“I say this above all because it has emerged that Mr. Alejandro Astesiano drove or entered the El Guardian system. That’s a lie. Is not true. Can not. I cannot intervene, the president cannot. If it is not with a criminal act that the prosecutor understands that it is necessary to intervene, and that he requests and convinces a judge that a telephone must be intervened, ”said Minister Luis Alberto Heber.

For his part, and in relation to the issue of crimes, he stated that “the public security management system should not be questioned because it has been the heart of the Police for 22 years. The public security management system does not classify crimes. Who typifies the crimes is the prosecutor. Therefore, when it is stated that there is a makeup of crime data, that is not true. Can there be errors? Yes, there can be errors. But a make-up is impossible because it is not the Police that defines the crime. The Police titled the crime. Then, those who classify are the prosecutors, ”explained the Secretary of State.

He acknowledged that “this may vary depending on the investigation,” and noted that “a crime that may appear to be theft, after the investigation ends up being robbery, or vice versa. Very hardly can change when it’s a homicide. So, we also deny everything that has been stated very forcefully but without sufficient information that there is no makeup in the Police information. The hierarch also commented that the exhibition explained how the CCU works (chambers of the Ministry of the Interior.

Heber also mentioned the increase in suicides among police officers. “We have a health commission, in which we have integrated the union. We agree with the measure, we are looking for how to implement it (a 24-hour guard to provide psychological and psychiatric assistance) to support people who often find themselves with scenarios and personal situations that are mixed with a high-stress job such as police work and that we must attend to, care for and protect”.

The Minister of the Interior, Luis Alberto Heber, attended accompanied by the National Director of Police, Chief Commissioner (R) Diego Fernández; the Director of the Information System, General Commissioner Fabricio Fagúndez; the General Director of the Secretariat, Nicolás Martinelli; and Director of Communication, Juan Romero.

Present at the head of the Commission were Senator Guido Manini Ríos (Chairman), Oscar Andrade, Mario Bergara Duque, Sebastián Da Silva, Pablo Martín Lanz Adib, Gustavo Penadés and Enrique Rubio. Missed Senator Charles Carrera Leal with notice. Also in attendance (although they are not part of the commission) were Liliam Kechichian, Silvia Nane Vincon and Anibal Pereyra. Among the resolutions, Senator Carlos Camy was proposed as ad hoc President. (photo in favor of 5 of 6 present).

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